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Post by Topsey on Sept 3, 2013 14:46:47 GMT
Hey guys, i know there aren't any Flatlanders signed up on here as far as i am aware? However i have been spreading the news to as many Flatlanders as i know & i am hoping we will see some more Flatlanders signing up! I have created this Thread to discuss everything Flatland! We have a Photo/Video section so obviously things like that can be posted in there. However this thread will basically be a place to discuss whats going on in the world of Flatland. Contests/Jams, New Products & Companies, Hooking Up for a sesh, everything & anything Flatland!!
Stay Cool Guys & i hope to see some posts in here in the not to distant future!
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Post by Tomdon on Sept 3, 2013 15:30:31 GMT
Good thread idea. Never even thought of flatland...sorry guys
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Post by Topsey on Sept 3, 2013 18:39:20 GMT
Flatlanders around the world, rejoice! Wethepeople are back in the Flatland Game! Here we have a picture of the Utopia Frame from the EuroBike convention, You cannot see a great deal of detail in this photo but you can clearly see the 14mm Drop Outs with Integrated Tensioners, an option i think should be offered on EVERY Frame not just Flatland Frames!  Next up, we have the Wethepeople Utopia Handle Bar.. Pretty cool looking with the bent Cross Bar & they look very wide, but with plenty of room to cut down!  And Finally from Wethepeople, the Utopia Flatland Fork! It looks to have Minimal Offset & offer a Removable (Or possibly welded?) or No Brake Mount at all options, Chrome or Flat Black, which leads me to believe we may well see the Bars & possibly the Frame offered in Chrome also!  Roll on Interbike! I'm sure they will have more details on the specifications there, & Hopefully we will see more from their sister Company Eclat about the Blind Freecoaster! |
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Post by Tomdon on Sept 3, 2013 18:57:51 GMT
I'm feeling those bars
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Post by Topsey on Sept 3, 2013 21:41:50 GMT
Updates on the Wethepeople Utopia Flatland Range...
Frame Specs:
75 Degree Head Tube Angle
19.5" Top Tube Length
70.5 Degree Seat Tube Angle
Still Unknown B.B Height
7.75" Stand Over Height
12.4" Slammed Chain Stays
4.9lbs
Handle Bars:
8.5" Height
Slightly over 27" Width
3 Degrees Upsweep
6 Degree Backsweep
Multi-Butted Tubing
1.47lbs
No Updates on the Fork other than its Minimal Offset & will come with WELDED & No Brake Mounts at all.
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Post by Zach on Sept 8, 2013 20:09:55 GMT
sounds pretty sick tbh
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Post by soulrebel on Sept 8, 2013 23:32:32 GMT
Those bars are sweet, I really like the look, I wonder what the geo is like on them.
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Post by Topsey on Sept 9, 2013 0:32:16 GMT
Kenny mate, i posted the Bar specs in a second comment under the photos! 8.5" x 27. Something" 3 Upsweep, 6 Backsweep! Very popular Handle Bar Geo in the world of Flatland right now!
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Post by Zach on Sept 9, 2013 17:03:30 GMT
and you could go ride them in the street
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Post by soulrebel on Sept 10, 2013 0:25:34 GMT
Aha sorry mate I missed that. Nice1
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Post by Topsey on Sept 13, 2013 1:30:50 GMT
Just thought i'd post this up in here... MY Autum Razzia V2 Frame. Mine has Custom 14mm Drop Outs, the Stock Model comes with 3/8ths Drop Outs. They look so Fucking Good in person! Specs:74.5 Degree Head Tube Angle 19.3" Top Tube Length 73 Degree Seat Tube Angle 7" Stand Over Height 12.4" Slammed Chain Stay Length 115mm Hour Glass Head Tube with Removable Gyro Tabs & Lazer Etched Autum A Logo Removable Brake Mounts Horizontal AND Vertical Cut Seat Tube Externally Machined Spanish Bottom Bracket 3/8ths Drop Outs with Integrated Chain Tensioners Matt Black & Glossy Dark Red  |
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Post by Tomdon on Sept 13, 2013 1:50:57 GMT
very nice frame. why 74.5?
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Post by Topsey on Sept 13, 2013 7:26:52 GMT
Believe it or not, a few years back every single Flatland Frame on the market had 74 or 74.5 Degree Head Tube Angles, some even had less! Then when the whole "Lets be like Street Riders" thing kicked in! I know there were a couple of Frames with 76/76.5 Degree Head Tube Angles. I have always ridden 74/74.5 Degree Head Tube Angles, especially with Zero Offset Forks it just doesn't feel right with the Steeper Head Tube Angles! 74.5 is pretty much spot on!
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Post by soulrebel on Sept 13, 2013 8:59:43 GMT
That's really nice mate, I'd love to ride that it looks like fun; especially that short backend.
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Post by Topsey on Sept 13, 2013 13:12:14 GMT
One thing that totally slipped my mind & is pretty much the most important reason i wont run a Flatland Frame with a HTA over 74.5 Degrees is... BALANCE! I find the balance point on 75+ to be way to squirmy, i know this might seem a little mad as both my Streetland Frames have 75.5 Degree HTA but, because i will only use Zero Offset Forks, the Bike just does not feel balanced correctly under me when riding! One thing i really like about the slacker HTA is especially with the Zero Offset Fork you feel like you have to push into Hang 5s & Whiplash Tricks, which for me makes me feel waaay more in control of my Bike. LOVE IT!  |
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Post by Topsey on Sept 13, 2013 13:14:40 GMT
Kenny mate, when its all built up & ready to ride & i have myself fixed & rideable too (L0L) I really want to get as many of the UK Guys together as possible. You, Zach, Eddie, Myself & I'm sorry if i have forgotten anyone! But we should all pick a central place, meet up, spend a weekend or whatever riding our little kiddies bicycles & we can all experiment riding each others Bikes  |
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Post by Zach on Sept 14, 2013 13:37:38 GMT
Kenny mate, when its all built up & ready to ride & i have myself fixed & rideable too (L0L) I really want to get as many of the UK Guys together as possible. You, Zach, Eddie, Myself & I'm sorry if i have forgotten anyone! But we should all pick a central place, meet up, spend a weekend or whatever riding our little kiddies bicycles & we can all experiment riding each others Bikes Would be a sick weekend tbh. |
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Post by Topsey on Sept 14, 2013 22:29:43 GMT
We HAVE to get it done sooner rather than later! Well i guess it all depends on my Fucking Shoulder  I will find out whats ahead on Thursday! |
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Post by Topsey on Sept 23, 2013 20:48:24 GMT
This is more Streetland than Flatland, Makushev Ivan kinda rides a bit of Street & Flatland, this is truly INSANE! I put it in the Photo/Video section, but i think it deserves to be in here too!
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Post by Topsey on Sept 24, 2013 20:59:41 GMT
 My Good Friend Danny owner of Quest has been designing these Bars for a while! .065" Straight Gauge Tubing, 7/8" O.D Cross Bar all add up to a SUPER stiff Handle Bar with great Geometry! I know i am biased, but these Bars ARE The Best Bars on the market right now! If you're a Flatlander BUY THESE.. You can get them at... www.QuestBMX.com (Link in my sig actually!) or www.FlatlandFuel.com |
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Post by cantbancollin on Sept 24, 2013 21:49:07 GMT
Legit. Made in USA. I have decided to put my "streetland" build on hold to dump more cash into Feel. But those are sweet.
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Post by Topsey on Sept 24, 2013 22:57:54 GMT
Priorities my friend, priorities! You can always sort out a Streetland/Flat build up later on in life!
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Post by Zach on Sept 25, 2013 16:46:37 GMT
I can't put much money into bike for a while, takin out a large chunk of cash for a pc as i need to replace my POS laptop. So if we do do this i may need to borrow a freecoaster wheel lol
But those bars look sick as fuck and i'd ride em
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Post by Topsey on Sept 30, 2013 22:28:18 GMT
Matti Hemmings at his very best!
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Post by biggybuggy on Oct 6, 2013 20:33:25 GMT
Im looking into flatland, I was going to buy a walmart bike, and fit it with pegs,flatland bars and flatland forks. Good decision?
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Post by Topsey on Oct 6, 2013 21:50:43 GMT
Not Really TBH.. You can ride Flatland on most Bikes but if you want a really Flatland Specific Bike you will need.. Zero or Super Minimal Offset Fork (13-16mm) Shorter Reach Stem (26-36mm) Zero or Minimal Sweep Bars (0-6 Degrees) Higher Seat Post (220mm+) Shorter Cranks (165mm MAX) Smaller Gearing (20-23/9) Narrower Tyres (2" MAX) Freecoaster Rear Hub Longer Pegs are a reccomended The Frame really depends on your height, unless you are well into the 6 foot + Margin you really don't want a Top Tube longer than 20" & most "New School" Flatlanders will not ride Chain Stays longer than 13" Some of the older guys & obviously the taller guys wont have a problem with 13"+ Chain Stays because in the 80s & 90s a Frame with 12" Chain Stays was insane! & obviously the Taller Guys, especially the ones with larger feet will deffo not want 12" Chain Stays, BUT... I will tell you now unless you're about 5'4 you will HATE 12" Chain Stays! Honestly i personally wont go below 12.5" My Frame i have now is 12.4" Slammed Chain Stays but it has Integrated Chain Tensioners so it will NEVER be slammed haha. If you honestly want to get yourself a beginners Flatland Bike check this one out..... www.albes.com/dk-opsis-2013-stock-flatland-bike.aspx |
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Post by biggybuggy on Oct 6, 2013 22:00:02 GMT
Not Really TBH.. You can ride Flatland on most Bikes but if you want a really Flatland Specific Bike you will need.. Zero or Super Minimal Offset Fork (13-16mm) Shorter Reach Stem (26-36mm) Zero or Minimal Sweep Bars (0-6 Degrees) Higher Seat Post (220mm+) Shorter Cranks (165mm MAX) Smaller Gearing (20-23/9) Narrower Tyres (2" MAX) Freecoaster Rear Hub Longer Pegs are a reccomended The Frame really depends on your height, unless you are well into the 6 foot + Margin you really don't want a Top Tube longer than 20" & most "New School" Flatlanders will not ride Chain Stays longer than 13" Some of the older guys & obviously the taller guys wont have a problem with 13"+ Chain Stays because in the 80s & 90s a Frame with 12" Chain Stays was insane! & obviously the Taller Guys, especially the ones with larger feet will deffo not want 12" Chain Stays, BUT... I will tell you now unless you're about 5'4 you will HATE 12" Chain Stays! Honestly i personally wont go below 12.5" My Frame i have now is 12.4" Slammed Chain Stays but it has Integrated Chain Tensioners so it will NEVER be slammed haha. If you honestly want to get yourself a beginners Flatland Bike check this one out..... www.albes.com/dk-opsis-2013-stock-flatland-bike.aspx o so I can get a wal goose for 150 with hi ten steel a 19" tt, I can get ITS 1.95 tires for cheap because I buy regularly from em, I will get big pegs, and I am actually 5'4" soooooo..... |
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Post by Topsey on Oct 6, 2013 22:05:14 GMT
www.global-flat.com/smf/index.php?topic=59547.0You could get an Opsis 2nd hand on Global-Flat right now for $100 more & in the long run that Bike will last you a LOT longer than a Hi-Ten Walgoose! Trust me Buddy, save up a little more & buy yourself something with a little more quality & not only will you save money in the long term, you will progress faster because you have the correct equipment! At the end of the day all i can do is advise you, obviously it's your money! I really do hope you get into Flatland it's great to see more people, especially younger people getting stoked on it!
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Post by biggybuggy on Oct 6, 2013 22:22:28 GMT
www.global-flat.com/smf/index.php?topic=59547.0You could get an Opsis 2nd hand on Global-Flat right now for $100 more & in the long run that Bike will last you a LOT longer than a Hi-Ten Walgoose! Trust me Buddy, save up a little more & buy yourself something with a little more quality & not only will you save money in the long term, you will progress faster because you have the correct equipment! At the end of the day all i can do is advise you, obviously it's your money! I really do hope you get into Flatland it's great to see more people, especially younger people getting stoked on it! ok then, after project fit is done, im getting one of these |
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Post by Topsey on Oct 7, 2013 0:12:31 GMT
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I will find out whats ahead on Thursday!
